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Anton's avatar

Always a pleasure to read you. Great job, we have the same opinion. I will look an arbitrage with pref

JF's avatar

Any thoughts on owning preferred shares (FOUR.PR.A) instead regular shares?

Preferred will covert into 1.224 regular shares in May 2028 if share price is under $81.81 and above $28.63.

And it pays $1.50 div per quarter (7 remaining until conversion for $10.50)

N.B. this will increase share count in May28 but stops div payment of $15M/q

Best Anchor Stocks's avatar

I looked into the economics of this a while ago, but got to the conclusion that it really doesn't make sense because you can miss on quite a bit of the upside (but the economics might have changed and would have to look closer)

JF's avatar
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Napkin maths:

Reg shares = $42.50

Pref = $55.50

So $5,550 buy you 100 prefs = 122.4 reg in May 2028

$5,550 buys you 130.5 reg now

So you are losing 8.1 shares

But will gain $1,050 in dividends

So if reg share price remains between $28.63 and $81.81 and you get 1.224 shares, you'd be winning.

Near $100 you would get 1:1 so then you'd lose vs regular shares...

Best Anchor Stocks's avatar

makes sense will look into this thank you JF!

Heavy Moat Investments's avatar

Last time I checked liquidity and spread are bad so you'd probably lose 1-3% on conversion between shares.

JF's avatar

Yes there can be a significant bid/ask spread.

Very common for preferred shares

Michael | Stock Spotlight's avatar

“The company suffered by far the worst stock reaction despite payment companies lowering the guide across the board.”

Not all! Toast raised guidance. To be fair, they are a payments/software company, which is why I own them.

Best Anchor Stocks's avatar

Of course not all